What's The Best Stove For All Conditions?
I give thank you lot you all for your many interesting questions as well as comments. I endeavour to respond to each as well as every one. Here's ane from "tpfishnfool" that I idea mightiness really brand a skillful weblog post:
Some questions for you:
-How much coin are you lot planning on spending?
-Are you lot willing to seat upwards alongside the "hassle" of liquid fuel stoves as well as priming? (I seat "hassle" inward quotes since in ane trial you lot teach the hang of it, priming a liquid fuel stove is pretty much no large deal.)
-What's your "style?" Ultralighter? Gotta direct hold bomb proof equipment fifty-fifty if it's a piffling heavier? Convenience driven? Cost conscious?
-What seasons create you lot exit in? Year round/four season? Three flavour including the "shoulder" seasons (early spring/late fall)? Fair conditions only?
I tin give you lot a ameliorate recommendation if I know what your answers are.
However, I tin brand some full general remarks: If you lot desire a stove that's skillful inward really all conditions, as well as thence inward full general you lot either desire a remote canister gas stove or a remote liquid fueled stove. If you lot invert the canister as well as role exclusively isobutane as well as propane for fuel, a remote canister gas stove volition operate downwardly to 0F without needing to employ "tricks" to maintain the canister warm, as well as a remote liquid fueled stove volition direct hold you lot downwardly into arctic conditions. By "remote" I but hateful that the burner as well as the fuel are separated (a fuel hose connects them).
Some recommendations for a remote canister gas stove:
1. Inexpensive: MSR Rapidfire. (discontinued, but available on eBay)
2. Lightweight: MSR Windpro. (current production)
3. Really depression temperatures: Coleman Xtreme. (discontinued, but available on eBay)
For a remote liquid fueled stove:
1. Inexpensive: MSR Whisperlite. (current production)
2. Versatile: Primus Omnifuel which burns canister gas, gasoline, or kerosene. (current production) If I exactly absolutely *had* to recommend ane as well as exclusively ane stove, as well as thence this would endure it.
3. Rugged & reliable: MSR XGK EX (current production) or before versions such every bit the MSR XGK II (discontinued, but available on eBay)
Now, having said that, most of us don't ask to teach super cold. If you're to a greater extent than oft than non staying to a higher house 20F, there's some other fantabulous option: the MSR Reactor (current production). It's non lightweight, as well as it's for sure non cheap, but it is ane bomb proof stove, as well as every bit it's refer mightiness suggest, it is ane hot stove. The Reactor tin direct hold on current of air without missing a beat. If melting snowfall is what you lot need, this thing's a nail furnace. If you lot ask to teach below 20F, it tin endure done alongside the Reactor, but you lot ask to employ techniques to to maintain the canister warm. If I were camping ground inward a gale on the exposed summit of a peak, I tin intend of no other stove I'd rather direct hold along.
Just for fun, I'll listing my "personal" stoves. These are non "shelf queens." These are the stoves I repeatedly rely on when out on the trail. What they are as well as when I role them may endure illustrative.
LIQUID FUEL
1. Svea 123. An "upright" liquid fueled stove. Not a lot of current of air protection. Super reliable. Compact as well as rugged. Cheap to operate.* Reasonably stable. Good for solo or pocket-size grouping trips. Capable of simmering.
2. MSR Whisperlite. H5N1 "remote" liquid fueled stove. Probably my most used stove; it's a existent "workhorse." Cheap to operate, skillful current of air protection. Stable; capable of treatment larger pot sizes. Good for pocket-size or mid-sized groups. Difficult to simmer. H5N1 skillful all-around stove.
3. MSR XGK. H5N1 "remote" liquid fueled stove. Hot! Rugged. Reliable. Stable. Good current of air protection. Cheap to operate. This is my "go to" stove for serious wintertime trips unless I mightiness ask to create inward my vestibule. Difficult to simmer.
4. MSR Simmerlite. H5N1 "remote" liquid fueled stove. Basically a lighter weight, modernized version of the Whisperlite. I role this stove when I desire to deport less weight/bulk but however role liquid fuel. Difficult to simmer.
GAS
1. Optimus Crux. An "upright" canister stove. Small, light, as well as compact, but wretched current of air protection. Not super stable. Capable of simmering. Basically a fair weather stove for "fast as well as light" trips alongside smaller pots. Does non handgrip mutual frigidity conditions well.
2. Camping Gaz HP470. An "upright" canister stove. Bigger pot suports, ameliorate current of air resistance, as well as to a greater extent than stable than the Optimus Crux but consequently the HP470 weighs to a greater extent than as well as is bulkier. H5N1 fair to moderate conditions stove. Does non handgrip mutual frigidity conditions well.
3. Jetboil PCS. An "upright" canister stove. Efficient. Easy to use. Convenient. Reasonably skillful current of air protection. Not super compact but non specially bulky either. Pretty stable when the "tripod" (canister legs) is used. Does non handgrip mutual frigidity conditions well. Capable of simmering. H5N1 skillful intermediate conditions stove.
4. MSR Reactor. An "upright" canister stove. Hot! Stable. Efficient. Excellent current of air protection. Not light. Not compact -- a chip bulky actually. Capable of simmering; it's tricky, but it tin endure done. H5N1 skillful extreme conditions stove when it's non going to teach super cold. Fastest snowfall melter I know of.
5. Coleman Xtreme. H5N1 "remote" canister stove. Good current of air protection. Good stability. Special canister pattern for mutual frigidity conditions which allows for functioning downwardly below 0F. If I intend it's going to endure really mutual frigidity as well as I mightiness ask to create within my tent (or vestibule), as well as thence this is my "go to" stove. The idea of priming a liquid fueled stove within does NOT appeal to me. H5N1 wintertime gas canister stove upwards similar the Xtreme allows me to avoid priming yet however direct hold excellent mutual frigidity conditions performance downwardly to virtually -10F. Capable of simmering.
Notice that the to a higher house v gas stoves cause alongside the lightest duty showtime as well as proceed to the heaviest duty.
HJ
*Indeed, "cheap to operate" is truthful for most liquid fueled stoves. H5N1 110g canister of gas is virtually $5.00 addition tax. The equivalent liquid fuel is virtually $0.30 addition tax.
"tpfishnfool" wrote: Looking for a skillful all closed to stove for everything from whitney to baldy. whats a skillful stove that is pocket-size as well as skillful inward all conditions ?It's tough to discovery that ane stove that "does it all" as well as is the best stove at all times as well as inward all conditions. Take a await at my "personal" stove listing downwardly below, as well as you'll hopefully run into what type of stove I role for what type of trip as well as nether what conditions.
Thanks..
Some questions for you:
-How much coin are you lot planning on spending?
-Are you lot willing to seat upwards alongside the "hassle" of liquid fuel stoves as well as priming? (I seat "hassle" inward quotes since in ane trial you lot teach the hang of it, priming a liquid fuel stove is pretty much no large deal.)
-What's your "style?" Ultralighter? Gotta direct hold bomb proof equipment fifty-fifty if it's a piffling heavier? Convenience driven? Cost conscious?
-What seasons create you lot exit in? Year round/four season? Three flavour including the "shoulder" seasons (early spring/late fall)? Fair conditions only?
I tin give you lot a ameliorate recommendation if I know what your answers are.
However, I tin brand some full general remarks: If you lot desire a stove that's skillful inward really all conditions, as well as thence inward full general you lot either desire a remote canister gas stove or a remote liquid fueled stove. If you lot invert the canister as well as role exclusively isobutane as well as propane for fuel, a remote canister gas stove volition operate downwardly to 0F without needing to employ "tricks" to maintain the canister warm, as well as a remote liquid fueled stove volition direct hold you lot downwardly into arctic conditions. By "remote" I but hateful that the burner as well as the fuel are separated (a fuel hose connects them).
Some recommendations for a remote canister gas stove:
1. Inexpensive: MSR Rapidfire. (discontinued, but available on eBay)
2. Lightweight: MSR Windpro. (current production)
3. Really depression temperatures: Coleman Xtreme. (discontinued, but available on eBay)
For a remote liquid fueled stove:
1. Inexpensive: MSR Whisperlite. (current production)
2. Versatile: Primus Omnifuel which burns canister gas, gasoline, or kerosene. (current production) If I exactly absolutely *had* to recommend ane as well as exclusively ane stove, as well as thence this would endure it.
3. Rugged & reliable: MSR XGK EX (current production) or before versions such every bit the MSR XGK II (discontinued, but available on eBay)
Now, having said that, most of us don't ask to teach super cold. If you're to a greater extent than oft than non staying to a higher house 20F, there's some other fantabulous option: the MSR Reactor (current production). It's non lightweight, as well as it's for sure non cheap, but it is ane bomb proof stove, as well as every bit it's refer mightiness suggest, it is ane hot stove. The Reactor tin direct hold on current of air without missing a beat. If melting snowfall is what you lot need, this thing's a nail furnace. If you lot ask to teach below 20F, it tin endure done alongside the Reactor, but you lot ask to employ techniques to to maintain the canister warm. If I were camping ground inward a gale on the exposed summit of a peak, I tin intend of no other stove I'd rather direct hold along.
Just for fun, I'll listing my "personal" stoves. These are non "shelf queens." These are the stoves I repeatedly rely on when out on the trail. What they are as well as when I role them may endure illustrative.
LIQUID FUEL
1. Svea 123. An "upright" liquid fueled stove. Not a lot of current of air protection. Super reliable. Compact as well as rugged. Cheap to operate.* Reasonably stable. Good for solo or pocket-size grouping trips. Capable of simmering.
2. MSR Whisperlite. H5N1 "remote" liquid fueled stove. Probably my most used stove; it's a existent "workhorse." Cheap to operate, skillful current of air protection. Stable; capable of treatment larger pot sizes. Good for pocket-size or mid-sized groups. Difficult to simmer. H5N1 skillful all-around stove.
3. MSR XGK. H5N1 "remote" liquid fueled stove. Hot! Rugged. Reliable. Stable. Good current of air protection. Cheap to operate. This is my "go to" stove for serious wintertime trips unless I mightiness ask to create inward my vestibule. Difficult to simmer.
4. MSR Simmerlite. H5N1 "remote" liquid fueled stove. Basically a lighter weight, modernized version of the Whisperlite. I role this stove when I desire to deport less weight/bulk but however role liquid fuel. Difficult to simmer.
GAS
1. Optimus Crux. An "upright" canister stove. Small, light, as well as compact, but wretched current of air protection. Not super stable. Capable of simmering. Basically a fair weather stove for "fast as well as light" trips alongside smaller pots. Does non handgrip mutual frigidity conditions well.
2. Camping Gaz HP470. An "upright" canister stove. Bigger pot suports, ameliorate current of air resistance, as well as to a greater extent than stable than the Optimus Crux but consequently the HP470 weighs to a greater extent than as well as is bulkier. H5N1 fair to moderate conditions stove. Does non handgrip mutual frigidity conditions well.
3. Jetboil PCS. An "upright" canister stove. Efficient. Easy to use. Convenient. Reasonably skillful current of air protection. Not super compact but non specially bulky either. Pretty stable when the "tripod" (canister legs) is used. Does non handgrip mutual frigidity conditions well. Capable of simmering. H5N1 skillful intermediate conditions stove.
4. MSR Reactor. An "upright" canister stove. Hot! Stable. Efficient. Excellent current of air protection. Not light. Not compact -- a chip bulky actually. Capable of simmering; it's tricky, but it tin endure done. H5N1 skillful extreme conditions stove when it's non going to teach super cold. Fastest snowfall melter I know of.
5. Coleman Xtreme. H5N1 "remote" canister stove. Good current of air protection. Good stability. Special canister pattern for mutual frigidity conditions which allows for functioning downwardly below 0F. If I intend it's going to endure really mutual frigidity as well as I mightiness ask to create within my tent (or vestibule), as well as thence this is my "go to" stove. The idea of priming a liquid fueled stove within does NOT appeal to me. H5N1 wintertime gas canister stove upwards similar the Xtreme allows me to avoid priming yet however direct hold excellent mutual frigidity conditions performance downwardly to virtually -10F. Capable of simmering.
Notice that the to a higher house v gas stoves cause alongside the lightest duty showtime as well as proceed to the heaviest duty.
HJ
*Indeed, "cheap to operate" is truthful for most liquid fueled stoves. H5N1 110g canister of gas is virtually $5.00 addition tax. The equivalent liquid fuel is virtually $0.30 addition tax.
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