The Msr Windburner – Novel 1.8 Liter Size
The MSR Windburner is basically your best friend inwards truly windy conditions. Hungry? Windburner. Done.
Recently, I pulled into army camp late, exhausted. I didn't desire to screw around alongside edifice a stone wall or crawling behind some boulders to cook. With the Windburner, it basically doesn't matter. There's no screwing around alongside trying to larn your stove to piece of work inwards wind. It exactly works. Boy, was I glad I had brought a Windburner that trip.
UPDATE 12 May 2017: I direct maintain immediately created a Comparison of the 1.8 L MSR Windburner alongside the 1.8 L Jetboil Sumo.
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I think many people aspect at the Windburner as alone a "personal" cooking organization (i.e. for exactly i person), which it is – inwards its master copy form. But no more.
When I wrote my initial review of the MSR Windburner, that's all that was available, a "personal" organization alongside a i liter pot. Yes, the Windburner is fast plenty that you lot could exactly direct maintain turns, but if you lot had a repast that required a combat to a greater extent than capacity or you lot wanted to consume together, the Windburner, dorsum then, truly wasn't your laid up. Then MSR introduced their novel 1.8 liter pot for the Windburner.
NOTE: The burner is the same size for all versions of the Windburner. All Windburner pots as well as pans fit alongside all Windburner burners. The 1.8 L pot will, for example, piece of work alongside the burner from a 1.0 L set. Likewise the pan volition fit the burner from either a 1.8 L laid or a 1.0 L set.
Now, I could exactly construct this a slam-dunk review. I mean, the 1.0 L size is a truly slap-up stove, hence I could exactly say "same stove, bigger size, plant great, the end," as well as live done alongside it, but I idea I'd say exactly a combat more – as well as at that topographic point are a few changes as good that I idea I'd quest out.
The mass of the organization is in fact the same, hence yesteryear all way you lot should read my master copy review: The New MSR Windburner.
Let me exactly say hither that since the publication of my master copy review exactly over 3 years ago, the Windburner has larn out my absolute favorite desert backpacking stove. Why? Because it's ever freaking windy inwards the desert. Really windy. And, no, sticking it behind a stone exactly doesn't cutting it inwards high gusty winds.
When the desert winds come upwards wailing downward those desert canyons, there's no amend stove than the MSR Windburner (well, maybe the MSR Reactor, but that's the same technology). Trip afterward trip, the Windburner has earned my trust as well as confidence. Whether desert canyons, opened upwards plains, or windswept ridges, this is the stove to direct maintain if you're going out into windy conditions. If you're interested inwards my existent the world testing of the Windburner, delight run across my latest trip report:
The Road to Hell is Paved with... Weather Balloons?
Canister Stand
One of the things that's unlike hither are the new, as well as I think improved, canister stand upwards (sometimes also called a "canister legs" or "canister feet").
There were some complaints that the master copy canister stand upwards that came alongside the Windburner took also much room as well as was also fragile. MSR rapidly break an improved version 2. This electrical current version is the 3rd version that I'm aware of, as well as it's a practiced i as far as I'm concerned.
What's novel as well as improved? It stretchy as well as it folds. There's goose egg brittle or delicate close it. You tin easily discovery a house to pack it within the capacious 1.8 L pot.
The novel canister stand upwards fits any size of canister. One never knows what you lot may discovery inwards a pocket-sized town. All that may live available is some other construct of canister, a canister that does not have the same diameter as an MSR canister. Coleman 220 g canisters for event are a picayune combat bigger than MSR 227 g canisters. Likewise, the quondam Primus 220 g canisters are a picayune smaller than MSR 227 g canisters. If you've alone got ii settings on your canister stand upwards (the width of an MSR 110 g or 227 g sized canister), practiced luck alongside other brands, particularly if you're traveling inwards Asia where who knows what you'll find. The novel Windburner canister stand upwards stretches as well as volition fit exactly close whatever canister diameter from close 8 cm to close 12 cm.
What Fits Inside?
First, I wrap everything inwards a bandana, run across above, hence that I don't scratch upwards the pot. With that inwards mind, the next volition fit:
The Bowl
The bowl has a dainty improvement over the original: It doesn't larn jammed onto the pot. On the original, sometimes the bowl would ride upwards also far on the pot, as well as it was all you lot could produce to larn it off again. MSR, thankfully, has corrected the problem, as well as the bowl pops on as well as off the pot easily.
As alongside the original, the pot lid fits the bowl every bit good as it fits the pot. The bowl is a total 850 ml (about 29 fluid ounces) inwards size, which is slap-up for mixing things in – or eating out of. The bowl is good marked alongside book increments.
For locomote alongside two, i mortal tin consume out of the bowl as well as the other out of the pot. No measure loving cup is needed since both the bowl as well as the pot direct maintain volumetric markings.
Functional Pot Size
Maximum recommended fill upwards is 1.0 liter for safety, however, I think that if a mortal were careful as well as the pot were on theater ground, 1.5 liters would live practical. There's a lot of ability inwards this stove, as well as a boil over is a existent possibility. Your best bet is to proceed the stove on a relatively depression setting if you're going to seat to a greater extent than inwards it than the recommended maximum amount. DO NOT let the stove boil over. If the stove boils over, 212 Fahrenheit/100 C H2O volition live spilling onto the canister beneath. What's the maximum temperature specification of the canister per the EN 417 standard? 50 Celsius (122 Fahrenheit). Boiling H2O is twice as hot as the specification. That could larn ugly. Do not permit the stove boil over.
Wind Tips as well as Tricks
I haven't seen this documented anywhere on MSR's site, but I ever plough the division of the pot without vents into the wind. This gives the best results inwards my experience.
Sometimes getting the stove lit tin live a combat of a describe a fast i on inwards high winds. Regular matches as well as regular lighters don't piece of work really well. Personally, I similar using a torch manner lighter similar the Soto Pocket Torch. Note nevertheless any lighter alongside a piezoelectric ignition volition larn out unreliable somewhere around elevations of 8000'/2400m or higher. Fire steels also piece of work good inwards windy weather condition as well as are non affected yesteryear elevation.
What Else Is New?
MSR has also introduced a difficult anodized frying pan/skillet for job alongside the Windburner. In my testing, I flora the skillet to live a really capable cooking implement.
Problems
There is i child job alongside the 1.8 L MSR Windburner pot, as well as I'm a picayune disappointed here. This same job existed inwards the master copy version of the Windburner, as well as I truly would direct maintain expected MSR to direct maintain corrected this yesteryear now. The job is only this: MSR hasn't truly figured out a practiced way to secure the pot cozy inwards place. Why does that matter? Well, if the pot cozy slides up, as it sometimes does, as well as then the lid volition non seal fully. You'll larn a picayune dribble nether the pour spot which volition larn out downward within the cozy.
Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 picayune dribble isn't also large of a job if you're exactly using water, but soups etc tin live a large mess if they larn out downward within the dearest comb plastic nether the surface of the cozy.
The "fix" is fairly simple: Just manually slide downward the cozy a pair of mm as well as and then seal the pot lid. This isn't also large of a deal, but you lot produce direct maintain to think to produce it. My preference would live for MSR to direct maintain corrected the issue. The pot cozy should, inwards my opinion, live designed such that it exactly can't slide upwards yesteryear a sure quest as well as drive a leak, no affair how child that leak may be.
The MSR Windburner is such a nice, well-thought out organization that it's a shame to direct maintain this i child flaw, and, yes, inwards the greater scheme of things, this is a pretty nit-picky complaint. Hey, I'm a stove nerd; what tin I say? :) Overall, it's a slap-up system. This picayune flaw sure doesn't proceed it out of my pack.
Summary – The MSR Windburner, 1.8 L Size
What's Good About It?
What's Not So Good About It?
Please run across also all weights as well as technical information inwards Appendices I as well as II, below.
Thanks for joining me on some other Adventure In Stoving,
HJ
Appendix I – Component Weights
Windburner stove organization alongside 1.8 L pot
Manufacturer's stated weight is 19.25 oz whereas my measured weight is 20.8 oz, close a 1.5 oz difference. They may non live including the canister stand upwards inwards their weight or maybe the bowl. My weights include everything that comes alongside the set.
Windburner skillet
Note: All weight were measured inwards grams. There may live child inconsistencies inwards weights stated inwards ounces due to rounding or cumulative errors.
Appendix II – Manufacturer as well as Technical Data
Date Available: January 2016. Currently available as of this writing
Manufacturer: Mountain Safety Research (MSR), a subsidiary of Cascade Designs.
Manufacturer's Website: http://www.cascadedesigns.com/MSR
MSRP: $160 for the Windburner organization alongside 1.8 L pot. $140 for the Windburner organization alongside 1.0 L pot. $90 for exactly the 1.8 L pot. $70 for exactly the skillet.
Weight (measured): See Appendix I
Materials: Aluminum pot. Plastic as well as nylon cozy. Polypropylene bowl as well as lid. Burner is primarily steel alongside brass threads. The regulator valve assembly is brass. The burner traveling steal is plastic.
Packed dimensions: 8" x 5" (20.5 cm x 12.5 cm).
Size/Model tested: 1.8 L pot.
Colors available: Blue or black.
Requirements: Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 measure threaded canister of gas, sold separately.
Warranty Information: Contact Cascade Designs through their website (see above).
Recently, I pulled into army camp late, exhausted. I didn't desire to screw around alongside edifice a stone wall or crawling behind some boulders to cook. With the Windburner, it basically doesn't matter. There's no screwing around alongside trying to larn your stove to piece of work inwards wind. It exactly works. Boy, was I glad I had brought a Windburner that trip.
UPDATE 12 May 2017: I direct maintain immediately created a Comparison of the 1.8 L MSR Windburner alongside the 1.8 L Jetboil Sumo.
For a to a greater extent than comprehensive aspect at Integrated canister stoves, delight see:
For a aspect at the entire realm of Canister Stoves, delight see:
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| The MSR Windburner alongside 1.8 L pot. |
When I wrote my initial review of the MSR Windburner, that's all that was available, a "personal" organization alongside a i liter pot. Yes, the Windburner is fast plenty that you lot could exactly direct maintain turns, but if you lot had a repast that required a combat to a greater extent than capacity or you lot wanted to consume together, the Windburner, dorsum then, truly wasn't your laid up. Then MSR introduced their novel 1.8 liter pot for the Windburner.
NOTE: The burner is the same size for all versions of the Windburner. All Windburner pots as well as pans fit alongside all Windburner burners. The 1.8 L pot will, for example, piece of work alongside the burner from a 1.0 L set. Likewise the pan volition fit the burner from either a 1.8 L laid or a 1.0 L set.
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| The 1.8 L pot for the MSR Windburner |
The mass of the organization is in fact the same, hence yesteryear all way you lot should read my master copy review: The New MSR Windburner.
Let me exactly say hither that since the publication of my master copy review exactly over 3 years ago, the Windburner has larn out my absolute favorite desert backpacking stove. Why? Because it's ever freaking windy inwards the desert. Really windy. And, no, sticking it behind a stone exactly doesn't cutting it inwards high gusty winds.
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| The Whitewater River flowing into the California desert from the San Bernardino Mountains |
The Road to Hell is Paved with... Weather Balloons?
Canister Stand
One of the things that's unlike hither are the new, as well as I think improved, canister stand upwards (sometimes also called a "canister legs" or "canister feet").
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| The novel 1.8 L version of the Windburner comes alongside improved canister legs. |
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| The novel Windburner canister stand upwards folds |
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| There's plenty of room within the 1.8 L pot for a spoon, lighter, as well as the canister stand. |
What Fits Inside?
First, I wrap everything inwards a bandana, run across above, hence that I don't scratch upwards the pot. With that inwards mind, the next volition fit:
- A 110 g sized canister fits easily alongside room to spare the burner, the 110 g canister, a spoon, the canister stand, as well as a large windproof torch type lighter.
- A 227 g sized canister fits the burner, the 227 g canister, the canister stand, as well as a pocket-sized lighter. The canister stand upwards is a combat of a trick, but if you lot fiddle alongside it a bit, it all fits. I couldn't fit my item spoon into the pot alongside the 227 g canister, but unlike spoons may fit.
- A 450 g sized canister volition fit, but non much else volition fit. You cannot fit inwards the burner if you lot seat a 450 g sized canister inside. The canister stand upwards as well as a lighter volition fit fifty-fifty alongside a 450 g size canister. NOTE: MSR does non recommend the 450 g size for job alongside the Windburner since the resultant assembly would live hence tall.
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| The pot is fairly deep, hence a 8.5"/21 cm spoon is a practiced fit. |
Recommended Utensils
The 1.8 L pot is close seven inches/17.5 cm deep. I think a spoon (or other untensil) of close 8.5 inches/21.5 cm is close right. In guild to fit your spoon inwards the pot, you'll desire a collapsing or folding spoon. I recommend plastic hence that you lot don't scratch upwards the dainty anodized pot.
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| The 1.8 L Windburner's bowl is a very functional 850 ml size. The pot lid snaps to the bowl inwards improver to the pot. |
The Bowl
The bowl has a dainty improvement over the original: It doesn't larn jammed onto the pot. On the original, sometimes the bowl would ride upwards also far on the pot, as well as it was all you lot could produce to larn it off again. MSR, thankfully, has corrected the problem, as well as the bowl pops on as well as off the pot easily.
As alongside the original, the pot lid fits the bowl every bit good as it fits the pot. The bowl is a total 850 ml (about 29 fluid ounces) inwards size, which is slap-up for mixing things in – or eating out of. The bowl is good marked alongside book increments.
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| The bowl has English linguistic communication units upwards through 24 oz/3 cups or metric units to 600 ml |
Functional Pot Size
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| The pot has book markings upwards to 44 oz as well as 1.4 L. Maximum recommended fill upwards is 1.0 L. |
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| The vents on the Windburner are on 3 sides of the pot. Turn the side without the vents into the wind. |
I haven't seen this documented anywhere on MSR's site, but I ever plough the division of the pot without vents into the wind. This gives the best results inwards my experience.
Sometimes getting the stove lit tin live a combat of a describe a fast i on inwards high winds. Regular matches as well as regular lighters don't piece of work really well. Personally, I similar using a torch manner lighter similar the Soto Pocket Torch. Note nevertheless any lighter alongside a piezoelectric ignition volition larn out unreliable somewhere around elevations of 8000'/2400m or higher. Fire steels also piece of work good inwards windy weather condition as well as are non affected yesteryear elevation.
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| In improver to the novel 1.8 L pot (seen at left inwards blue), MSR has also introduced a Windburner skillet. |
MSR has also introduced a difficult anodized frying pan/skillet for job alongside the Windburner. In my testing, I flora the skillet to live a really capable cooking implement.
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| A really nice, moist omelette prepared inwards a Windburner skillet. |
Problems
There is i child job alongside the 1.8 L MSR Windburner pot, as well as I'm a picayune disappointed here. This same job existed inwards the master copy version of the Windburner, as well as I truly would direct maintain expected MSR to direct maintain corrected this yesteryear now. The job is only this: MSR hasn't truly figured out a practiced way to secure the pot cozy inwards place. Why does that matter? Well, if the pot cozy slides up, as it sometimes does, as well as then the lid volition non seal fully. You'll larn a picayune dribble nether the pour spot which volition larn out downward within the cozy.
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| Using the pour spout on the the lid of the MSR Windburner. Nice feature, but you lot direct maintain to construct sure the pot cozy is moved downward a few mm or it won't seal. |
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| You don't desire nutrient spills to larn out downward within the plastic honeycomb of the pot cozy. |
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| Slide the pot cozy downward a pair of mm inwards guild to larn the lid to seal properly. |
Summary – The MSR Windburner, 1.8 L Size
What's Good About It?
- Utterly bombproof inwards wind
- Good fuel efficiency and good speed
- Nice bowl (with book markings)
- Nice pot capacity for ii (and tin conform spoon, lighter, etc.)
- Robust as well as durable
- Good oestrus command (It tin produce a lot to a greater extent than than exactly boil water)
- Twelve attachment openings (so that it doesn't affair which way you lot plough the pot)
- A handgrip that truly works
What's Not So Good About It?
- If the pot cozy slides up, the lid may non seal properly for pouring.
- It would live dainty if they could larn out far an ounce or ii lighter. Note that the Windburner is close the same as other stoves inwards this class; this is exactly a "wish list" form of a thing.
Please run across also all weights as well as technical information inwards Appendices I as well as II, below.
Thanks for joining me on some other Adventure In Stoving,
HJ
Appendix I – Component Weights
Windburner stove organization alongside 1.8 L pot
| Item | Grams | Ounces |
| Burner | 200 | 7.0 |
| Pot | 227 | 8.0 |
| Cozy | 71 | 2.5 |
| Lid | 20 | 0.7 |
| Bowl | 54 | 1.9 |
| Stand | 20 | 0.7 |
| TOTAL | 592 | 20.8 |
Windburner skillet
| Item | Grams | Ounces |
| Pan | 234 | 8.3 |
Appendix II – Manufacturer as well as Technical Data
Date Available: January 2016. Currently available as of this writing
Manufacturer: Mountain Safety Research (MSR), a subsidiary of Cascade Designs.
Manufacturer's Website: http://www.cascadedesigns.com/MSR
MSRP: $160 for the Windburner organization alongside 1.8 L pot. $140 for the Windburner organization alongside 1.0 L pot. $90 for exactly the 1.8 L pot. $70 for exactly the skillet.
Weight (measured): See Appendix I
Materials: Aluminum pot. Plastic as well as nylon cozy. Polypropylene bowl as well as lid. Burner is primarily steel alongside brass threads. The regulator valve assembly is brass. The burner traveling steal is plastic.
Packed dimensions: 8" x 5" (20.5 cm x 12.5 cm).
Size/Model tested: 1.8 L pot.
Colors available: Blue or black.
Requirements: Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 measure threaded canister of gas, sold separately.
Warranty Information: Contact Cascade Designs through their website (see above).
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| The author, climbing a wind-swept desert ridge close Desert Hot Springs, California. The MSR Windburner is the ultimate desert cooking machine. |
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