The Supergnat (Gaz *And* Threaded!)
Senin, 01 Juli 2019
Camping Gaz,
Gaz,
Gnat,
Monotauk,
Monotauk Gnat,
MSR,
MSR SuperFly,
SuperFly,
SuperGnat,
Universal gas
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There are 2 types of modern gas canisters for backpacking (see Backpacking Gas Canisters 101).
Generally, stoves built for i type of canister solely operate amongst that type of canister. For example, Camping Gaz stoves to a greater extent than oft than non solely operate amongst Camping Gaz canisters. However, at that topographic point are a few exceptions -- including a relatively lightweight i that you lot tin plough over the sack get together yourself inward solely a few minutes. This postal service shows you lot how if you'd similar to try.
In price of factory-built exceptions, the solely widely available stove inward the the U.S.A. that volition operate amongst either canister type is the MSR SuperFly. In Europe, at that topographic point are a duad of dual format stoves available from Primus. None of the dual format stoves that I cause got seen are lightweight.
Well, together with hence nosotros only cause got to pose upwardly amongst the SuperFly, yes? Uh, well, yes, but... the SuperFly is an awfully BIG stove. I hateful it's fine for grouping cooking, but for the "fast together with light" crowd, it's a flake much. Don't accept my give-and-take for it, here, accept a look:
What's that you lot say? I'm silly? A SuperFly beingness compared to a Gnat is absurd?
Really? Are you lot sure? Maybe the comparing isn't every bit ridiculous every bit you lot powerfulness think. Have you lot e'er noticed how similar the threads are on the 2 valve assemblies?
I hateful only await at those threads. They sure await the same. It looks similar you lot could only switch i for the other.
Which, inward fact, you lot can. Now the stove amongst a Gnat valve assembly together with a SuperFly burner caput may non purchase us much, but the other stove, the i amongst a Gnat burner caput together with a SuperFly valve assembly is form of cool. Let's cause got a look.
Behold the SuperGnat! Here, nosotros cause got a fairly compact, relatively lightweight canister stove that tin plough over the sack hold out used amongst either measure threaded or Camping Gaz canisters. Cool!
But does it work? Let's plough over it a try. Note: Before you lot endeavor what I'm depicting here, read the warning below.
Sure enough, it works!
Pretty shameless, aren't I? I only mated a Camping Gaz canister to an MSR valve assembly amongst a Monatauk (probably made yesteryear Fire Maple of China) burner caput together with lit it amongst a Kovea built MSR piezoelectric ignition. Dr. Frankenstein would hold out proud. lol.
And the thing industrial plant pretty darned well.
Now, I said lightweight. How lightweight you lot ask? My scale says 84g (3.0oz). Now, that's a flake heavier than the Monatauk Gnat, but consider some other typical stoves used yesteryear weight witting backpackers. For example, the Snow Peak GS-100, weighs 86g (3.0oz). An Optimus Crux weighs 88g (3.1oz). A PocketRocket weighs 86g (3.0oz). When compared to such stoves, really, the SuperGnat is inward the same class. The SuperGnat is surely far lighter than the 131g (4.6oz) SuperFly! Note: All weights were measured inward grams on my KitchenChef scale. Manufacturers stated weights may vary.
So, at that topographic point you lot cause got it, a relatively lightweight upright canister stove that volition operate amongst either canister format, Camping Gaz or measure threaded. Such a stove could hold out of existent produce goodness to mortal backpacking, wheel touring, motorbike touring, or otherwise traveling inward Europe or other regions where i or the other but non necessarily both canister types may hold out available at a given location.
Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 particular give cheers you lot to Mark F. of Commonwealth of Australia who tipped me off that such a thing powerfulness hold out possible.
An extra particular give cheers you lot to Bob G of California who provided the Gnat for testing.
Note: It may hold out possible to produce amongst an Optimus Crux Lite the real same thing that I've done amongst the Monatauk Gnat, nonetheless I haven't yet tried it.
WARNING
Look, if it isn't at nowadays obvious only from the nature of what I'm doing, swapping stove components could good hold out the real final thing you lot e'er do. Get it wrong, transfer a flake also much oestrus to the canister, together with KABOOM! your backpacking trip (and perhaps a whole lot more) only ended. I don't intend that what I'm showing hither is automatically going to resultant inward a problem, but it has that potential. If you lot endeavor to emulate what I cause got done, empathise that you lot are doing something inherently unsafe together with that you are making a determination to deliberately discover yourself to that danger.
Now, that beingness said, I intend the dangers tin plough over the sack hold out mitigated to a degree. Just a) empathise that the dangers are real, b) that the consequences could hold out real severe indeed (i.e. dandy bodily impairment or death), together with c) accept every precaution to hold out safe. At the real least, claw it upwardly outdoors away from whatever oestrus root or opened upwardly flame. Then, earlier you lot produce anything else, listen. If you lot hear gas escaping, teach no farther until you lot tin plough over the sack eliminate the root of escaping gas. If you lot create upwardly one's heed to accept the direct chances of lighting such a cobbled together stove, endeavor it on depression first. Look for whatever strange flames. If at that topographic point are whatever flames where at that topographic point shouldn't hold out any, plough it off immediately. Adopting the precautions mentioned inward this paragraph powerfulness lessen the direct chances but volition non eliminate risk. Messing only about amongst gas stoves inward whatever agency other than those recommended yesteryear the manufacturer could hold out unsafe no affair how many precautions you lot take.
Thank you lot for joining me on some other Adventure inward Stoving.
HJ
Technical Appendix -- Weights
Stove Weight Canister Type
SuperFly 131g/4.6oz Both
Optimus Crux 88g/3.1oz Threaded only
GS-100 86g/3.0oz Threaded only
PocketRocket 86g/3.0oz Threaded only
"SuperGnat" 84g/3.0oz Both
MicroRocket 73g/2.6oz Threaded only
Soto OD-1R 70g/2.5oz Threaded only
Monatauk Gnat 47g/1.7oz Threaded only
Generally, stoves built for i type of canister solely operate amongst that type of canister. For example, Camping Gaz stoves to a greater extent than oft than non solely operate amongst Camping Gaz canisters. However, at that topographic point are a few exceptions -- including a relatively lightweight i that you lot tin plough over the sack get together yourself inward solely a few minutes. This postal service shows you lot how if you'd similar to try.
In price of factory-built exceptions, the solely widely available stove inward the the U.S.A. that volition operate amongst either canister type is the MSR SuperFly. In Europe, at that topographic point are a duad of dual format stoves available from Primus. None of the dual format stoves that I cause got seen are lightweight.
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| An MSR SuperFly volition operate amongst either a Camping Gaz type connecter (left) or a measure threaded connecter (right). |
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| An MSR SuperFly (left) is a large stove. Compare to a Monotauk Gnat (right). |
Really? Are you lot sure? Maybe the comparing isn't every bit ridiculous every bit you lot powerfulness think. Have you lot e'er noticed how similar the threads are on the 2 valve assemblies?
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| An MSR SuperFly (left) an a Monatauk Gnat (right). The valve assemblies cause got been detached from the burner columns. |
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| The valve assemblies of a SuperFly together with a Gnat, swapped. |
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| A SuperGnat mated to a Camping Gaz canister |
But does it work? Let's plough over it a try. Note: Before you lot endeavor what I'm depicting here, read the warning below.
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| Lighting a SuperGnat amongst a Kovea piezoelectric ignition |
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| A SuperGnat inward use. |
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| A SuperGnat at nowadays later on use. |
Now, I said lightweight. How lightweight you lot ask? My scale says 84g (3.0oz). Now, that's a flake heavier than the Monatauk Gnat, but consider some other typical stoves used yesteryear weight witting backpackers. For example, the Snow Peak GS-100, weighs 86g (3.0oz). An Optimus Crux weighs 88g (3.1oz). A PocketRocket weighs 86g (3.0oz). When compared to such stoves, really, the SuperGnat is inward the same class. The SuperGnat is surely far lighter than the 131g (4.6oz) SuperFly! Note: All weights were measured inward grams on my KitchenChef scale. Manufacturers stated weights may vary.
So, at that topographic point you lot cause got it, a relatively lightweight upright canister stove that volition operate amongst either canister format, Camping Gaz or measure threaded. Such a stove could hold out of existent produce goodness to mortal backpacking, wheel touring, motorbike touring, or otherwise traveling inward Europe or other regions where i or the other but non necessarily both canister types may hold out available at a given location.
Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 particular give cheers you lot to Mark F. of Commonwealth of Australia who tipped me off that such a thing powerfulness hold out possible.
An extra particular give cheers you lot to Bob G of California who provided the Gnat for testing.
Note: It may hold out possible to produce amongst an Optimus Crux Lite the real same thing that I've done amongst the Monatauk Gnat, nonetheless I haven't yet tried it.
WARNING
Look, if it isn't at nowadays obvious only from the nature of what I'm doing, swapping stove components could good hold out the real final thing you lot e'er do. Get it wrong, transfer a flake also much oestrus to the canister, together with KABOOM! your backpacking trip (and perhaps a whole lot more) only ended. I don't intend that what I'm showing hither is automatically going to resultant inward a problem, but it has that potential. If you lot endeavor to emulate what I cause got done, empathise that you lot are doing something inherently unsafe together with that you are making a determination to deliberately discover yourself to that danger.
Now, that beingness said, I intend the dangers tin plough over the sack hold out mitigated to a degree. Just a) empathise that the dangers are real, b) that the consequences could hold out real severe indeed (i.e. dandy bodily impairment or death), together with c) accept every precaution to hold out safe. At the real least, claw it upwardly outdoors away from whatever oestrus root or opened upwardly flame. Then, earlier you lot produce anything else, listen. If you lot hear gas escaping, teach no farther until you lot tin plough over the sack eliminate the root of escaping gas. If you lot create upwardly one's heed to accept the direct chances of lighting such a cobbled together stove, endeavor it on depression first. Look for whatever strange flames. If at that topographic point are whatever flames where at that topographic point shouldn't hold out any, plough it off immediately. Adopting the precautions mentioned inward this paragraph powerfulness lessen the direct chances but volition non eliminate risk. Messing only about amongst gas stoves inward whatever agency other than those recommended yesteryear the manufacturer could hold out unsafe no affair how many precautions you lot take.
Thank you lot for joining me on some other Adventure inward Stoving.
HJ
Technical Appendix -- Weights
Stove Weight Canister Type
SuperFly 131g/4.6oz Both
Optimus Crux 88g/3.1oz Threaded only
GS-100 86g/3.0oz Threaded only
PocketRocket 86g/3.0oz Threaded only
"SuperGnat" 84g/3.0oz Both
MicroRocket 73g/2.6oz Threaded only
Soto OD-1R 70g/2.5oz Threaded only
Monatauk Gnat 47g/1.7oz Threaded only
Related articles together with posts:
- Cold Weather Tips for Gas Stoves
- What's the Best Gas for Cold Weather?
- Gas Stoves: How Cold Can I Go? <==Most comprehensive article on canister gas together with cold
- Canisters, Cold, together with Altitude: Gas inward a Nutshell
- Canister Stoves 101: Thread Care
- Gas Blends together with Cold Weather Performance. (Why non only purpose propane?)
- The "Super Gnat" (Camping Gaz or threaded canisters amongst i lightweight stove)
- Backpacking Gas Canisters 101
- Gas inward Extreme Cold: Yes or No?
- Gas inward Cold Weather: The Myth of "Fractioning"
- Stoves For Cold Weather I (Upright canister stoves) – Seattle Backpacker's Magazine
- Stoves for Cold Weather II (Inverted remote canister stoves) – Seattle Backpacker's Magazine
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