Titanium Jetboil Sol -- Caution
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The titanium version of the JetBoil Sol might have an occasional* problem. The employment appears to last fairly limited, and many people receive got used the titanium version of the JetBoil Sol without problems together with are completely satisfied amongst the product.
Please banknote that my concerns pertain to the titanium version of the JetBoil Sol only.
There receive got been a few failures noted inwards the aluminum "flux ring" (heat exchanger) that is joined to the bottom of the titanium pot. Typically (I'll acquire to the to a greater extent than extreme cases inwards a minute), what appears to last happening is that somebody is heating something other than simply H2O inwards their JetBoil. Heat builds upwards inwards the aluminum oestrus exchanger, to a greater extent than oestrus than the oestrus exchanger tin privy handle, together with the oestrus exchanger becomes damaged. The harm typically appears to last a melting of the oestrus exchanger. It's possible that the aluminum could last undergoing combustion. Whether melting or combustion, the oestrus exchanger is damaged.
So, caution number one: If yous screw upwards piece cooking amongst the titanium version of the JetBoil Sol, yous mightiness truly harm your oestrus exchanger.
What are simply about ways to minimize the conduct a opportunity of damaging the oestrus exchanger?
1. Only boil water. Water typically does non hand 212F/100C inwards temperature. Yes, salts together with minerals inwards the H2O may enhance the boiling dot a bit, but it volition silent last somewhere nigh the typical boiling point. Water makes a real effective means of putting an upper saltation on the amount of oestrus the pot together with oestrus exchanger is subjected to.
2. Moderate your flame. Yes, I know, yous bought your JetBoil because it's faster than a speeding bullet, but really, volition a moderate flaming brand that much difference? What, xxx seconds more? How much is an undamaged oestrus exchanger worth? A few to a greater extent than seconds hold back is good worth it if yous relieve your oestrus exchanger. The titanium version of the JetBoil Sol isn't cheap, directly is it? So irksome it downward a bit, yes?
3. If yous do oestrus upwards something that's a flake to a greater extent than than water, stir it continuously. If yous dismiss something to the bottom of the pot, it could cast an insulating layer. That insulating layer volition human activity equally a barrier together with non allow oestrus to last transferred from the exchanger into contents of the pot. You do NOT desire anything to block the normal oestrus transfer. If the oestrus builds upwards inwards the fairly sparse aluminum of the oestrus exchanger, that's when harm is nearly probable to occur.
4. Don't oestrus upwards something amongst a depression wet content. The JetBoil's instructions (see appendices, below) Blue Planet equally much. Personally, I wouldn't oestrus upwards anything thicker than the slurry formed yesteryear adding H2O to a freeze dried meal, but whatever yous oestrus up, brand sure it has a lot of H2O content.
Now, for the above, I said "typical case." By that I hateful typical illustration where at that topographic point has been simply about type of problem. Of class 99+ per centum of the fourth dimension at that topographic point is no problem.
Beyond the typical employment cases equally described above, at that topographic point receive got been a few, real few, cases where something to a greater extent than odd happens.
One blogger reports that he was simply heating H2O on a moderate flaming when business office of his oestrus exchanger melted: A weblog post describing a melted JetBoil Ti Sol oestrus exchanger
Also, here's a YouTube video where the oestrus exchanger becomes separated from the pot:
What happened? Well, nosotros can't tell precisely from this video, but nosotros do know that aluminum together with titanium are rather unlike metals. The rates of expansion together with contraction during heating together with cooling betwixt the 2 metals are quite different. Every fourth dimension yous oestrus or cool the 2 metals, the 2 metals volition last pulling on whatever joins them, presumably a weld inwards this case. Given that the higher upwards happened inwards mutual frigidity weather, the 2 metals may receive got been position through quite a temperature range, causing the weld to separate. I'm speculating of course, together with this is the alone reported illustration I've seen of this type, so I wouldn't read likewise much into it. However, neither would I plunge a hot titanium JetBoil Sol into an H2O ice bath.
So, caution two: Rapid swings inwards temperature mightiness drive problems amongst the oestrus exchanger. Taking steps to moderate the charge per unit of measurement of temperature increases together with decreases is alone prudent.
Now, 1 terminal case, together with this 1 a flake to a greater extent than troubling. But, piece troubling, this is alone 1 illustration out of the presumably thousands of titanium JetBoil Sols out there.
Let's croak dorsum to the JetBoil Sol Ti originally shown inwards the showtime photograph above.
Let me include the master copy post that I saw on the cyberspace which prompted me to number my "caution:"
Therefore, caution three: As amongst all canister stoves (this sure isn't unique to the titanium JetBoil Sol), avoid boil overs. The JetBoil is a real powerful stove. Do non exit the stove unattended.
And, yes, I've left diverse stoves unattended before; nosotros in all probability all have. Maybe amongst a stove equally powerful equally a JetBoil that's non something yous desire to do.
If yous saw before versions of this post, my before caution indicated that yous mightiness desire to a)hold off on buying a titanium version of the JetBoil Sol until to a greater extent than was known together with b) if you've already got 1 that yous mightiness desire to laid your titanium JetBol Sol aside for a bit, 1 time to a greater extent than until to a greater extent than is known. I made those recommendations inwards lite of the potentially serious incident amongst the 3 human foot flames. With such potentially serious consequences, I felt such a caution was warranted.
Now, afterwards gathering to a greater extent than facts, conferring amongst others, together with analyzing inwards greater item the available cases, I don't intend such measures are necessary. Far to a greater extent than people receive got come upwards frontwards proverb that their titanium JetBol Sol industrial plant perfectly fine than people who receive got had a problem, together with the 1 severe employment may receive got been caused yesteryear a boil over, non a production defect. A boil over would acquit on whatever canister stove, non simply a JetBoil. Therefore:
I come across no inordinate danger inwards the titanium JetBoil Sol at this time.
Do, however, come across the higher upwards 3 cautions, together with head them. You should also follow the directions provided yesteryear JetBoil, excerpts from which are included inwards the appendices, below.
Stoving. Sometimes it's a whole lot to a greater extent than Adventurous than nosotros expect. :) But together with so that's why yous read this blog. I give cheers yous for joining me.
HJ
P.S. JetBoil, if you're reading this, I would honey to receive got whatever additional insight or advice that yous mightiness last able to provide. You tin privy attain me at hikin dot jim3 at gmail dot com (replace the give-and-take "dot" amongst a "." together with the give-and-take "at" amongst an "@"). I would last happy to add together your input to my blog.
*By "occasional" I hateful that real few units seem to receive got been impacted. I do not hateful that all units volition occasionally receive got a problem!
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Appendix II -- Melting Points
Please banknote that my concerns pertain to the titanium version of the JetBoil Sol only.
There receive got been a few failures noted inwards the aluminum "flux ring" (heat exchanger) that is joined to the bottom of the titanium pot. Typically (I'll acquire to the to a greater extent than extreme cases inwards a minute), what appears to last happening is that somebody is heating something other than simply H2O inwards their JetBoil. Heat builds upwards inwards the aluminum oestrus exchanger, to a greater extent than oestrus than the oestrus exchanger tin privy handle, together with the oestrus exchanger becomes damaged. The harm typically appears to last a melting of the oestrus exchanger. It's possible that the aluminum could last undergoing combustion. Whether melting or combustion, the oestrus exchanger is damaged.
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A damaged aluminum "flux ring" (heat exchanger) on a titanium JetBoil Sol. Photo courtesy of John Abela of HikeLighter.com. Used yesteryear permission.
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What are simply about ways to minimize the conduct a opportunity of damaging the oestrus exchanger?
1. Only boil water. Water typically does non hand 212F/100C inwards temperature. Yes, salts together with minerals inwards the H2O may enhance the boiling dot a bit, but it volition silent last somewhere nigh the typical boiling point. Water makes a real effective means of putting an upper saltation on the amount of oestrus the pot together with oestrus exchanger is subjected to.
2. Moderate your flame. Yes, I know, yous bought your JetBoil because it's faster than a speeding bullet, but really, volition a moderate flaming brand that much difference? What, xxx seconds more? How much is an undamaged oestrus exchanger worth? A few to a greater extent than seconds hold back is good worth it if yous relieve your oestrus exchanger. The titanium version of the JetBoil Sol isn't cheap, directly is it? So irksome it downward a bit, yes?
3. If yous do oestrus upwards something that's a flake to a greater extent than than water, stir it continuously. If yous dismiss something to the bottom of the pot, it could cast an insulating layer. That insulating layer volition human activity equally a barrier together with non allow oestrus to last transferred from the exchanger into contents of the pot. You do NOT desire anything to block the normal oestrus transfer. If the oestrus builds upwards inwards the fairly sparse aluminum of the oestrus exchanger, that's when harm is nearly probable to occur.
4. Don't oestrus upwards something amongst a depression wet content. The JetBoil's instructions (see appendices, below) Blue Planet equally much. Personally, I wouldn't oestrus upwards anything thicker than the slurry formed yesteryear adding H2O to a freeze dried meal, but whatever yous oestrus up, brand sure it has a lot of H2O content.
Now, for the above, I said "typical case." By that I hateful typical illustration where at that topographic point has been simply about type of problem. Of class 99+ per centum of the fourth dimension at that topographic point is no problem.
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| A typical oestrus exchanger on a JetBoil Sol Ti (perfectly normal). Photo courtesy of Martin Rye of Summit together with Valley Lightweight Backpacking. Used yesteryear permission. |
One blogger reports that he was simply heating H2O on a moderate flaming when business office of his oestrus exchanger melted: A weblog post describing a melted JetBoil Ti Sol oestrus exchanger
Also, here's a YouTube video where the oestrus exchanger becomes separated from the pot:
What happened? Well, nosotros can't tell precisely from this video, but nosotros do know that aluminum together with titanium are rather unlike metals. The rates of expansion together with contraction during heating together with cooling betwixt the 2 metals are quite different. Every fourth dimension yous oestrus or cool the 2 metals, the 2 metals volition last pulling on whatever joins them, presumably a weld inwards this case. Given that the higher upwards happened inwards mutual frigidity weather, the 2 metals may receive got been position through quite a temperature range, causing the weld to separate. I'm speculating of course, together with this is the alone reported illustration I've seen of this type, so I wouldn't read likewise much into it. However, neither would I plunge a hot titanium JetBoil Sol into an H2O ice bath.
So, caution two: Rapid swings inwards temperature mightiness drive problems amongst the oestrus exchanger. Taking steps to moderate the charge per unit of measurement of temperature increases together with decreases is alone prudent.
Now, 1 terminal case, together with this 1 a flake to a greater extent than troubling. But, piece troubling, this is alone 1 illustration out of the presumably thousands of titanium JetBoil Sols out there.
Let's croak dorsum to the JetBoil Sol Ti originally shown inwards the showtime photograph above.
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| A melted aluminum oestrus exchanger on a titanium JetBoil Sol. Photo courtesy of John Abela of HikeLighter.com. Used yesteryear permision |
I looked over at my jetboil together with all I saw was this massive flame. The flames were in all probability 3 feet inwards the air. I ran over together with dumped the terminal of my H2O on it (and hence went that black together with the adjacent morning time w/o water) together with when everything cooled down, at that topographic point was evidences of simply about serious super heating. The piddling 'flux rings' ended upwards super heating together with they were simply going ballistic. The flux band cloth got so hot that it started dripping downward onto the Blue Planet (which did non croak out when my threw my H2O on it, that materials was crazy hot) together with the drops of super heated metallic were all over the canister - which scared me the most. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 few of them truly melted/welded onto the canister of gas. The stupid orangish affair was completely melted (I had to accept a dremel to cutting it off when I got dorsum habitation - which is where I learned how slow it was to accept them off). The bottom of the pot (not the flux, the bottom) equally yous tin privy come across inwards the photos higher upwards suffered major oestrus harm - together with remember, titanium has a melting dot of 3034(F).I honestly can't come across whatever oestrus harm on the titanium pot other than normal "rainbow" discoloration, but if at that topographic point were 3 human foot flames together with temperatures hot plenty to melt aluminum, that's real serious, together with that variety of oestrus could potentially drive a canister explosion. What nosotros don't know hither is what led to that flame. Did the H2O boil over onto the canister? If H2O did boil over, equally on all canister stoves, the boiling H2O could drive the internal clit per unit of measurement area inside the canister to dramatically increment which mightiness drive a flare which mightiness Pb to the variety of flaming together with harm reported above.
Therefore, caution three: As amongst all canister stoves (this sure isn't unique to the titanium JetBoil Sol), avoid boil overs. The JetBoil is a real powerful stove. Do non exit the stove unattended.
And, yes, I've left diverse stoves unattended before; nosotros in all probability all have. Maybe amongst a stove equally powerful equally a JetBoil that's non something yous desire to do.
If yous saw before versions of this post, my before caution indicated that yous mightiness desire to a)
Now, afterwards gathering to a greater extent than facts, conferring amongst others, together with analyzing inwards greater item the available cases, I don't intend such measures are necessary. Far to a greater extent than people receive got come upwards frontwards proverb that their titanium JetBol Sol industrial plant perfectly fine than people who receive got had a problem, together with the 1 severe employment may receive got been caused yesteryear a boil over, non a production defect. A boil over would acquit on whatever canister stove, non simply a JetBoil. Therefore:
I come across no inordinate danger inwards the titanium JetBoil Sol at this time.
Do, however, come across the higher upwards 3 cautions, together with head them. You should also follow the directions provided yesteryear JetBoil, excerpts from which are included inwards the appendices, below.
Stoving. Sometimes it's a whole lot to a greater extent than Adventurous than nosotros expect. :) But together with so that's why yous read this blog. I give cheers yous for joining me.
HJ
P.S. JetBoil, if you're reading this, I would honey to receive got whatever additional insight or advice that yous mightiness last able to provide. You tin privy attain me at hikin dot jim3 at gmail dot com (replace the give-and-take "dot" amongst a "." together with the give-and-take "at" amongst an "@"). I would last happy to add together your input to my blog.
*By "occasional" I hateful that real few units seem to receive got been impacted. I do not hateful that all units volition occasionally receive got a problem!
Links
- Original BPL forum post that prompted me to number a caution
- A weblog post describing a melted JetBoil Ti Sol oestrus exchanger
- A BPL forum post describing a JetBol Ti Sol oestrus exchanger separating from the pot
- A video (same equally above) of a oestrus exchanger separating from the pot inwards mutual frigidity weather
Appendix I -- JetBoil Sol Instructions -- Excerpts
The next are excerpts from the instructions for the JetBoil Sol. All of them appear to last audio advice. Note that they stress how of import it is to avoid a boil over. Update 2 Mar 2012: I've added photos of the actual instructions that come upwards amongst the JetBoil Sol Ti inwards Appendix IV.
OPERATION WARNINGS
Do non exit Jetboil SOL unattended piece inwards use.
DO NOT fry or laid foods amongst depression wet content. Use depression flaming settings when heating liquid foods to avoid boil over. If heating liquids nigh maximum capacity, purpose alone depression flaming settings together with practice caution to forestall boil over.
OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS
If yous overheat the canister, it volition explode. Ignite burner before placing pot or loving cup on burner.
DO NOT HEAT EMPTY COOKING CUP. Add liquid or liquid nutrient to the cooking cup. Use depression oestrus when filling higher upwards 0.5L, boil over tin privy result.
Aluminum melts at 1220.666° F/660.37° C.
Appendix III -- Disclosures
I ain several JetBoil stoves including the aluminum version of the JetBoil Sol, but I do non ain a titanium JetBoil Sol. I am real happy amongst the JetBoil products I own. I receive got used JetBoil stoves at altitudes upwards to together with higher upwards 11,000 ft/3300m without problems (well, except for the piezoelectric ignition, but that's a known together with pretty fry issue). I believe JetBoil is a expert companionship amongst a expert product.
Appendix IV -- Photos of the JetBoil Sol Ti's Instructions
Added 2 Mar 2012
I ain several JetBoil stoves including the aluminum version of the JetBoil Sol, but I do non ain a titanium JetBoil Sol. I am real happy amongst the JetBoil products I own. I receive got used JetBoil stoves at altitudes upwards to together with higher upwards 11,000 ft/3300m without problems (well, except for the piezoelectric ignition, but that's a known together with pretty fry issue). I believe JetBoil is a expert companionship amongst a expert product.
Appendix IV -- Photos of the JetBoil Sol Ti's Instructions
Added 2 Mar 2012
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