Review: The Novel Msr Windburner
MSR (Mountain Safety Research, Seattle, WA, USA, a partitioning of Cascade Designs) has come upwardly out amongst a novel stove system: The Windburner.
UPDATE 08 May 2017: MSR has updated the Windburner amongst a twosome of novel options: A 1.8 L pot as well as a frying pan. Please run across my novel review at: The Windburner for Two (new 1.8 L pot review).
For a to a greater extent than comprehensive hold off at Integrated canister stoves, delight see:
For a hold off at the entire realm of Canister Stoves, delight see:
The Windburner is a high efficiency integrated canister gas stove which borrows the windproof burner concept from the MSR Reactor. With the Windburner, you're non exactly buying a stove, you're buying an entire system, amongst pot amongst lid, cup/bowl, burner, as well as canister stand. It's really nearly a consummate backcountry kitchen. You take away only select a spoon as well as an ignition source.
Note: When offset introduced, the Windburner was named the Windboiler. Apparently Jetboil took exception to this scream as well as threatened legal action. MSR renamed the stove from Windboiler to Windburner. In my review, I tried to modify over to the novel name, but if y'all run across Windboiler instead of Windburner, residue assured that it's 1 as well as the same stove.
Features That Actually Work
My overall impression is 1 of attending to detail. The main musician inward the champaign is Jetboil, as well as inward some ways, Jetboil has gotten a lilliputian sloppy. For example, induce got y'all ever tried to utilization the grip on the Jetboil? It exactly doesn't work.
By contrast, the Windburner's grip is functional as well as stone steady – piece nevertheless folding away when y'all pack it up.
And that tiny matter on the bottom of a Jetboil that they telephone telephone a cup? I don't fifty-fifty know where my Jetboil loving cup is; I hateful that matter is so useless that I exactly don't utilization it. The loving cup on the Windburner holds one-half a liter as well as the lid fits every bit good on both the pot as well as the cup.
Not only does the lid fit, it's H2O tight. I tin fifty-fifty elevator the entire stove yesteryear the lid, canister nevertheless attached.
The lid on a Jetboil ever comes off inward my pack, so I air current upwardly angling for the contents, contents that should all live together.
Yes, these are all tiddler annoyances, but inward this regard, MSR hasn't missed a thing. All of the features on the novel Windburner are good idea out, good executed, and, bottom line, they work.
Add to that "bombproof" air current resistance, as well as you've got 1 heck of a stove system.
I've been blogging the yesteryear calendar month well-nigh this novel stove, so I won't belabor all of what I've said previously. For to a greater extent than detailed information, I'll refer y'all to what has already been posted. Please run across the below sections.
Wind Resistance as well as Consistent Fuel Efficiency
The most dramatic results (and the most impressive to me personally) relate to the scream of the stove, the "Wind" boiler. By the really name, MSR is laying claim to a stove that tin stand upwardly up to the elements. I did a multifariousness of air current tests, as well as I induce got to say that the Windburner is caput as well as shoulders higher upwardly the contest inward this regard. I couldn't fifty-fifty instruct the Windburner to admit that it was windy. During heavy winds, it went on as though null odd were happening. The stove I was comparing it to could non fifty-fifty select H2O to a boil, allow lone induce got normal function. The 2 videos I took of the Windburner basically shutting the contest downwardly are worth seeing inward my opinion. Please see:
Overview as well as Basic Features
For an overview of the scheme as well as the basic features of the stove, delight see:
Optional Extras
The Windburner has a twosome of optional items that y'all tin add together to the scheme if y'all so desire. They include a java press as well as a hanging kit. You tin also purchase a stand upwardly lone 2nd pot so that y'all as well as a partner tin each induce got a pot as well as percentage a unmarried burner. Given how fast the Windburner is, this is a perfectly reasonable arrangement.
In price of the optional extras, I was specially impressed that the hanging kit did NOT take away to live assembled each as well as every fourth dimension as well as that 1 could exactly wrap it exactly about the burner as well as store the entire assembly inward the pot, ready to go. For to a greater extent than on the private items, delight see:
Can This Thing Actually Cook?
It's a stove subsequently all, so naturally you'll wish to know what it's capabilities are inward the cooking department. The Windburner has markedly amend open fire adjustability than it's predecessor, the Reactor. However, I works life that it couldn't simmer, at to the lowest degree non if y'all used a strict Definition of the give-and-take "simmer", but that at that topographic point were some expert cooking options for typical trail fare. Please see:
Three Things to Note
Here are 3 things that y'all should authorities annotation well-nigh the Windburner.
1. Loose Cozy: With the Windburner, the cozy may non ever lock quite right to the pot. This is a known number amongst some of the offset run cozies that has immediately been corrected. It's a tiddler annoyance, but MSR volition supersede your cozy for gratis if y'all asking it. It's non hard to supersede the cozy. Details at the link, below.
3. Underburn: You could instruct "underburn" where the open fire goes beneath the surface of the burner. It's rare, but it could happen. The corrective activity is uncomplicated – if y'all know how to exercise it. Details at the link, below.
Advantages of the Windburner
You tin read through all of the detailed posts, but I idea I'd lay together a listing of some of the advantages of the Windburner.
Disadvantages of the Windburner
That's my review of the MSR Windburner. If y'all wish to a greater extent than details, at that topographic point are enough hither on my blog. I encourage y'all to browse to your heart's content. If y'all induce got whatever questions or take away clarification, delight go out a comment inward the comments section, below.
I give thank y'all you for joining me,
HJ
MSR Windburner Posts
Appendix I – Technical Details
Manufacturer: MSR, a partitioning of Cascade Designs.
Date available: Currently available.
Manufacturer’s Website: http://www.cascadedesigns.com/MSR
MSRP: $130.00 (USD)
Stated Weight: 432 g/15.2 ounces
Measured Weight: 457 g/16.1 ounces
Materials: Aluminum (pot as well as estrus exchanger)
Packed Dimensions: 171 mm/6.7" tall, 102 mm/4.0" wide. See First Look for farther info.
Size/Model tested: Max capacity, 1000ml/34 fl. oz. Practical capacity, 600ml/20 fl oz. (per MSR; I intend y'all could instruct away amongst 750 ml/25 fl oz, if y'all were careful).
Requirements: Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 measure threaded canister of gas (sold separately).
Warranty info: Contact the MSR/Cascade Designs Customer Service Center (see website, above)
Colors Available: Red or Gray
Appendix II – Component Weights
MSR Windburner Weights
Stated vs. Measured Weights
Note: "Stated" weights are the weights listed on the MSR website. "Measured" weights are those weights I measured amongst my gram scale at home. All measurements were made inward grams. Weights inward ounces are a calculated figure. Some rounding mistake may occur. In the instance of whatever apparent discrepancy, utilization the weight inward grams.
UPDATE, seven Jan 2015: I've received a authorities annotation from MSR stating that production units are coming inward heavier than the epitome units that the weights were originally calculated from. MSR gave me a range. Basically the unit of measurement I received is well-nigh inward the middle of that range. A weight exactly over sixteen ounces should live well-nigh the weight of a unit of measurement that y'all would have should y'all purchase one. I powerfulness add together that MSR was a fleck chagrined well-nigh the miscalculation of the weights since they endeavor to live transparent well-nigh such things. I don't yet induce got an exact number for the revised stated weight, but it should live well-nigh 460 grams/16.2 ounces.
Appendix III – Comparative Table of Weights as well as Prices
Weights are by as well as large the manufacturer's stated weights inward grams. The notable exception is the weight of the titanium version of the Jetboil Sol. The Jetboil website has "spin doctored" the numbers to brand the titanium version look lighter. My number is based on an "apples to apples" comparison. The weight of private stoves volition vary. Ounces are a calculated figure based on a conversion factor of 28.3495. Stoves are sorted inward corporation of weight amongst the lightest stove first. Note that all of the 1.0 L capacity stoves are inside well-nigh an ounce of each other inward price of weight. The spread is 32 grams from the lightest 1.0 L stove to the heaviest.
UPDATE, seven Jan 2015: I've received a authorities annotation from MSR stating that production units are coming inward heavier than the epitome units that the weights were originally calculated from. MSR gave me a range. Basically the unit of measurement I received is well-nigh inward the middle of that range. A weight exactly over sixteen ounces should live well-nigh the weight of a unit of measurement that y'all would have should y'all purchase one. I powerfulness add together that MSR was a fleck chagrined well-nigh the miscalculation of the weights since they endeavor to live transparent well-nigh such things. I don't yet induce got an exact number for the revised stated weight, but it should live well-nigh 460 grams/16.2 ounces.
Note: My data is that Jetboil is discontinuing their Sol describe of piece of job of stoves (both types).
Appendix IV – Recommendations for Improvement
1. Canister Stand. The grayness canister stand upwardly is a lilliputian slow to lose, specially inward areas amongst grayness granite, such as the Sierra Nevada Mountains (and many others). A brighter color, 1 easily seen inward depression low-cal conditions would live preferable.
2. Coffee Press. The lower subdivision of the rod rolls away far too easily. Making it cross sectionally elliptical or adding a small-scale plastic slice exactly higher upwardly the threaded cease would amend forestall rolling. Yes, I did notice the spot where the lower subdivision tin live slid into the grip of the upper section. I nevertheless believe the lower subdivision would exercise goodness from modification.
3. Weight. Obviously some reduction inward weight would brand the unit of measurement to a greater extent than to a greater extent palatable. The primary electrical load I've heard from my readership concerns weight.
4. Capacity. Obviously, at that topographic point volition live people that wish a larger capacity pot. I know MSR is working on it.
5. Auto ignition. A lot of people are quite surprised to detect that the Windburner does non induce got an ignition of some kind. It is prissy amongst a locking pot to induce got an integrated ignition. I realize that at that topographic point may live constraints (like reliability), but piezoelectric ignitions induce got improved tremendously. The Soto Microregulator as well as Soto Windmaster induce got specially expert ignition systems. The pattern of the Windburner's burner surface may brand this quite challenging, but nevertheless I intend it ought to live considered.
6. Height. Particularly as novel pots are developed, I would intend the summit ought to live reduced as well as the width increased. I tested the electrical flow 1.0 L pot, as well as the stability is expert amongst the canister stand, but a lot of people may non read that far inward my review(s) as well as may write the Windburner off as unstable based on appearances alone. A wider pot is easier to attain into as well as would should live stable as well.
Disclosures
The item reviewed hither was provided to me at no accuse for the purposes of this review. I am nether no obligation to review this or whatever other item. I am non compensated for my reviews inward whatever fashion other than inward some cases I am permitted to continue the item reviewed. Given that I induce got good over a 100 backpacking stoves, a gratis stove frankly isn't going to purchase anyone a expert review. Stove companies must mensurate upwardly if they wish a decent review here. I am an amatuer stove blogger; I brand my living elsewhere, inward the information technology field. I lucifer blogging inward as fourth dimension permits. Inasmuch as my income is derived elsewhere, monetary issues exercise non influence the reviews on this blog. Yes, I exercise induce got advertisements on the blog. I typically derive well-nigh $1.00 USD per twenty-four lx minutes catamenia from the advertisements (last I checked). This is a mere pittance as well as does non influence my reviews inward the slightest. Revenue from the advertisements goes toward hosting fees, stove fuel, as well as the like. The spider web log is self supporting inward that sense, as well as my married adult woman is quite happy that I'm non using the family's income to run the blog, specially given how tough the economic scheme is these days.
UPDATE 08 May 2017: MSR has updated the Windburner amongst a twosome of novel options: A 1.8 L pot as well as a frying pan. Please run across my novel review at: The Windburner for Two (new 1.8 L pot review).
For a to a greater extent than comprehensive hold off at Integrated canister stoves, delight see:
For a hold off at the entire realm of Canister Stoves, delight see:
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| The novel Windburner from MSR |
Note: When offset introduced, the Windburner was named the Windboiler. Apparently Jetboil took exception to this scream as well as threatened legal action. MSR renamed the stove from Windboiler to Windburner. In my review, I tried to modify over to the novel name, but if y'all run across Windboiler instead of Windburner, residue assured that it's 1 as well as the same stove.
Features That Actually Work
My overall impression is 1 of attending to detail. The main musician inward the champaign is Jetboil, as well as inward some ways, Jetboil has gotten a lilliputian sloppy. For example, induce got y'all ever tried to utilization the grip on the Jetboil? It exactly doesn't work.
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| The grip on the Jetboil. Not so good. |
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| The grip on a Windburner tin live used as, well, a handle. Fancy that. |
Not only does the lid fit, it's H2O tight. I tin fifty-fifty elevator the entire stove yesteryear the lid, canister nevertheless attached.
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| The lid on a Windburner is so expert that it's truly H2O tight. Do NOT endeavor that amongst boiling H2O amongst a Jetboil! |
Yes, these are all tiddler annoyances, but inward this regard, MSR hasn't missed a thing. All of the features on the novel Windburner are good idea out, good executed, and, bottom line, they work.
Add to that "bombproof" air current resistance, as well as you've got 1 heck of a stove system.
I've been blogging the yesteryear calendar month well-nigh this novel stove, so I won't belabor all of what I've said previously. For to a greater extent than detailed information, I'll refer y'all to what has already been posted. Please run across the below sections.
Wind Resistance as well as Consistent Fuel Efficiency
The most dramatic results (and the most impressive to me personally) relate to the scream of the stove, the "Wind" boiler. By the really name, MSR is laying claim to a stove that tin stand upwardly up to the elements. I did a multifariousness of air current tests, as well as I induce got to say that the Windburner is caput as well as shoulders higher upwardly the contest inward this regard. I couldn't fifty-fifty instruct the Windburner to admit that it was windy. During heavy winds, it went on as though null odd were happening. The stove I was comparing it to could non fifty-fifty select H2O to a boil, allow lone induce got normal function. The 2 videos I took of the Windburner basically shutting the contest downwardly are worth seeing inward my opinion. Please see:
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| Snow Creek inward the windy San Gorgonio Pass area, site of some of the air current testing |
For an overview of the scheme as well as the basic features of the stove, delight see:
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| Mount Williamson (8248'/2514m),site of some of the on trail testing |
The Windburner has a twosome of optional items that y'all tin add together to the scheme if y'all so desire. They include a java press as well as a hanging kit. You tin also purchase a stand upwardly lone 2nd pot so that y'all as well as a partner tin each induce got a pot as well as percentage a unmarried burner. Given how fast the Windburner is, this is a perfectly reasonable arrangement.
In price of the optional extras, I was specially impressed that the hanging kit did NOT take away to live assembled each as well as every fourth dimension as well as that 1 could exactly wrap it exactly about the burner as well as store the entire assembly inward the pot, ready to go. For to a greater extent than on the private items, delight see:
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| The hanging kit tin live stowed, fully assembled, yesteryear only wrapping the cables exactly about the burner. |
It's a stove subsequently all, so naturally you'll wish to know what it's capabilities are inward the cooking department. The Windburner has markedly amend open fire adjustability than it's predecessor, the Reactor. However, I works life that it couldn't simmer, at to the lowest degree non if y'all used a strict Definition of the give-and-take "simmer", but that at that topographic point were some expert cooking options for typical trail fare. Please see:
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| A hot lunch, courtesy of the MSR Windburner. Yum! |
Here are 3 things that y'all should authorities annotation well-nigh the Windburner.
1. Loose Cozy: With the Windburner, the cozy may non ever lock quite right to the pot. This is a known number amongst some of the offset run cozies that has immediately been corrected. It's a tiddler annoyance, but MSR volition supersede your cozy for gratis if y'all asking it. It's non hard to supersede the cozy. Details at the link, below.
3. Underburn: You could instruct "underburn" where the open fire goes beneath the surface of the burner. It's rare, but it could happen. The corrective activity is uncomplicated – if y'all know how to exercise it. Details at the link, below.
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| Middle Fork, Lytle Creek, site of some of the on trail as well as air current testing. |
You tin read through all of the detailed posts, but I idea I'd lay together a listing of some of the advantages of the Windburner.
- Nearly foolproof inward wind. Now, I realize that non everyone cooks inward exposed, windy places, but fifty-fifty if y'all ready inward relatively sheltered spots, you're ever losing something to the air current inward price of fourth dimension as well as fuel amongst conventional stoves. Not so amongst the Windburner. And for those occasions where it truly is windy, you'll live able to ready almost as if at that topographic point were no air current at all piece those exactly about y'all volition live eating uncooked food. I would intend windproofness would live of exceptional wages to alpinists, mountaineers, "big wall" climbers, desert travellers, those who military camp higher upwardly tree line, travellers at high latitudes, as well as anyone who camps or cooks inward areas where sheltered spots are hard to come upwardly by. Of course of written report anyone who camps or cooks inward areas prone to heavy winds would exercise goodness most of all.
- Predictability. The longer the trip, the harder it is to predict your fuel needs, specially if air current as well as weather condition play hob amongst your fuel consumption. The Windburner takes really lilliputian notice of the vicissitudes of wind, making it's fuel consumption relatively consistent as well as hence far easier to predict.
- Efficiency. An efficient stove gets the maximum number of boils out of a canister of gas. Use a less efficient stove, as well as you'll live giving upwardly boils y'all powerfulness induce got otherwise had. Efficiency is specially of import on longer trips, specially inward areas where y'all can't ever count on the availability of resupply.
- Speed as well as Convenience. The Windburner is a consistently fast stove as well as an all inward 1 solution. Buy 1 as well as you're done amongst stove shopping for your trip. You'll take away to exercise really lilliputian else too buying fuel. Not only that, but you'll live eating piece everyone else is nevertheless waiting. After a long twenty-four lx minutes catamenia on the trail, hot nutrient inward a hurry amongst minimum hassle is 1 of the primary disceptation points inward favor of an integrated canister stove.
- Features that truly work. There's been a tremendous amount of idea as well as attending to exceptional that has gone into the Windburner, as well as it shows. The features are all eminently practical, as well as they work.
- Packability. Everything packs together marvelously. I was specially impressed amongst how the java press takes upwardly essentially no additional room inward one's pack, but all of the other components are every bit good idea out inward price of how things pack upwardly as well as lucifer together.
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| An exposed, air current swept ridge, depression elevation examine site for the Windburner |
- Price. Actually this is a 2 edged sword. On the 1 manus at MSRP of $130, the Windburner is good situated amid other regulator valved integrated canister stoves similar the Aluminum Jetboil Sol at $120, the Jetboil MiniMo at $130, as well as the titanium Jetboil Sol at $150. Also, the Windburner at $130 makes Reactor applied scientific discipline available for a expert bargain less – the to the lowest degree expensive Reactor is $190. On the other hand, no 1 tin combat that $130 is inexpensive fifty-fifty if the unit of measurement does include a pot as well as cup/bowl. Moreover, at that topographic point are lower cease non-regulator valved stoves similar the Jetboil Flash at $100 as well as the Jetboil Zip at $80. It volition live interesting to run across if the Windburner's features overcome the cost wages of the lower cease integrated canister stoves. See also the cost as well as weight comparing nautical chart inward the appendix.
- Weight. While a highly efficient stove volition salve on fuel weight, the MSR Windburner is a fleck heavy at 432 g/15.2 oz stated weight. See the weight of all components as well as my comments inward the appendix. However, when compared to other 1.0 L sized integrated canister stoves, the Windburner is inside well-nigh an ounce of their weights. If 1 wants the advantages of an integrated canister stove similar the Windburner, so at this juncture it volition live necessary to tolerate the weight. See also the cost as well as weight comparing nautical chart inward the appendix. My recommendations to MSR are to a) continue a unopen optic on manufacturing to insure that Windburners exercise non top their stated weight as well as b) for time to come generations of the system, to cut the overall weight. I've placed additional recommendations inward Appendix IV.
UPDATE, seven Jan 2015: I've received a authorities annotation from MSR stating that production units are coming inward heavier than the epitome units that the weights were originally calculated from. MSR gave me a range. Basically the unit of measurement I received is well-nigh inward the middle of that range. A weight exactly over sixteen ounces should live well-nigh the weight of a unit of measurement that y'all would have should y'all purchase one. I powerfulness add together that MSR was a fleck chagrined well-nigh the miscalculation of the weights since they endeavor to live transparent well-nigh such things. I don't yet induce got an exact number for the revised stated weight, but it should live well-nigh 460 grams/16.2 ounces. I intend both MSR as well as earth would live good served yesteryear reducing the weight of the unit. - Only One Pot. Yes, there's only 1 pot that tin live used amongst a Windburner. I tried a Jetboil pot. It didn't piece of job (didn't fit). I tried a Reactor pot. It didn't piece of job (ridiculously unstable). Even if some other pot did work, it wouldn't necessarily live safe. The carbon monoxide output of the stove powerfulness climb to unsafe levels, the stove could overheat, or the stove laid upwardly powerfulness live unstable. MSR says that they're working on additional pots, but for immediately the 1.0 L pot is all that at that topographic point is. There is no frying pan selection or grouping sized option. That said, the Windburner is so fast that cooking for to a greater extent than than 1 somebody is completely inside reason, specially if a 2nd 1.0 L pot is purchased. The tall pot is a lilliputian hard to attain into amongst a measure length spoon, so brand certain y'all instruct a long handled spoon.
That's my review of the MSR Windburner. If y'all wish to a greater extent than details, at that topographic point are enough hither on my blog. I encourage y'all to browse to your heart's content. If y'all induce got whatever questions or take away clarification, delight go out a comment inward the comments section, below.
I give thank y'all you for joining me,
HJ
MSR Windburner Posts
- "First Look" Report
- Trail Report #1
- Hanging Kit I
- Lighting the Windburner
- Wind Testing
- Coffee Press
- Hanging Kit II
- MSR Windburner – Three Things to Note
- Cooking Ability
- Final, Completed Review
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| Heat exchanger detail, MSR Windburner |
Manufacturer: MSR, a partitioning of Cascade Designs.
Date available: Currently available.
Manufacturer’s Website: http://www.cascadedesigns.com/MSR
MSRP: $130.00 (USD)
Stated Weight: 432 g/15.2 ounces
Measured Weight: 457 g/16.1 ounces
Materials: Aluminum (pot as well as estrus exchanger)
Packed Dimensions: 171 mm/6.7" tall, 102 mm/4.0" wide. See First Look for farther info.
Size/Model tested: Max capacity, 1000ml/34 fl. oz. Practical capacity, 600ml/20 fl oz. (per MSR; I intend y'all could instruct away amongst 750 ml/25 fl oz, if y'all were careful).
Requirements: Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 measure threaded canister of gas (sold separately).
Warranty info: Contact the MSR/Cascade Designs Customer Service Center (see website, above)
Colors Available: Red or Gray
Appendix II – Component Weights
MSR Windburner Weights
| Component | Grams | Ounces |
| Pot (bare) | 147 | 5.19 |
| Cozy & Handle | 49 | 1.73 |
| Bowl | 32 | 1.13 |
| Pack Cloth | 1 | 0.04 |
| Canister Legs | 16 | 0.56 |
| Lid | 13 | 0.46 |
| Burner | 199 | 7.02 |
| Total | 457 | 16.12 |
Stated vs. Measured Weights
| Grams | Ounces | |
| Measured | 457 | 16.12 |
| Stated | 432 | 15.24 |
| Difference | 25 | 0.88 |
Note: "Stated" weights are the weights listed on the MSR website. "Measured" weights are those weights I measured amongst my gram scale at home. All measurements were made inward grams. Weights inward ounces are a calculated figure. Some rounding mistake may occur. In the instance of whatever apparent discrepancy, utilization the weight inward grams.
UPDATE, seven Jan 2015: I've received a authorities annotation from MSR stating that production units are coming inward heavier than the epitome units that the weights were originally calculated from. MSR gave me a range. Basically the unit of measurement I received is well-nigh inward the middle of that range. A weight exactly over sixteen ounces should live well-nigh the weight of a unit of measurement that y'all would have should y'all purchase one. I powerfulness add together that MSR was a fleck chagrined well-nigh the miscalculation of the weights since they endeavor to live transparent well-nigh such things. I don't yet induce got an exact number for the revised stated weight, but it should live well-nigh 460 grams/16.2 ounces.
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| The MSR Windburner |
| Integrated Canister Stove | Capacity (liters) | Weight (g) | Weight (oz) | Retail Price |
| Jetboil Sol (Ti) | 0.8 | 279 | 9.8 | $150.00 |
| Jetboil Sol (Al) | 0.8 | 312 | 11.0 | $120.00 |
| Jetboil Zip | 0.8 | 345 | 12.2 | $80.00 |
| Jetboil Flash | 1.0 | 400 | 14.1 | $100.00 |
| Jetboil MiniMo | 1.0 | 415 | 14.6 | $130.00 |
| MSR Reactor | 1.0 | 417 | 14.7 | $190.00 |
| MSR Windburner | 1.0 | 432 | 15.2 | $130.00 |
Weights are by as well as large the manufacturer's stated weights inward grams. The notable exception is the weight of the titanium version of the Jetboil Sol. The Jetboil website has "spin doctored" the numbers to brand the titanium version look lighter. My number is based on an "apples to apples" comparison. The weight of private stoves volition vary. Ounces are a calculated figure based on a conversion factor of 28.3495. Stoves are sorted inward corporation of weight amongst the lightest stove first. Note that all of the 1.0 L capacity stoves are inside well-nigh an ounce of each other inward price of weight. The spread is 32 grams from the lightest 1.0 L stove to the heaviest.
UPDATE, seven Jan 2015: I've received a authorities annotation from MSR stating that production units are coming inward heavier than the epitome units that the weights were originally calculated from. MSR gave me a range. Basically the unit of measurement I received is well-nigh inward the middle of that range. A weight exactly over sixteen ounces should live well-nigh the weight of a unit of measurement that y'all would have should y'all purchase one. I powerfulness add together that MSR was a fleck chagrined well-nigh the miscalculation of the weights since they endeavor to live transparent well-nigh such things. I don't yet induce got an exact number for the revised stated weight, but it should live well-nigh 460 grams/16.2 ounces.
Note: My data is that Jetboil is discontinuing their Sol describe of piece of job of stoves (both types).
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| Size comparisons. L to R: MSR Reactor (1.0 L), MSR Windburner (1.0 L), Original Jetboil PCS (1.0 L), Jetboil Al Sol (0.8 L). |
1. Canister Stand. The grayness canister stand upwardly is a lilliputian slow to lose, specially inward areas amongst grayness granite, such as the Sierra Nevada Mountains (and many others). A brighter color, 1 easily seen inward depression low-cal conditions would live preferable.
2. Coffee Press. The lower subdivision of the rod rolls away far too easily. Making it cross sectionally elliptical or adding a small-scale plastic slice exactly higher upwardly the threaded cease would amend forestall rolling. Yes, I did notice the spot where the lower subdivision tin live slid into the grip of the upper section. I nevertheless believe the lower subdivision would exercise goodness from modification.
3. Weight. Obviously some reduction inward weight would brand the unit of measurement to a greater extent than to a greater extent palatable. The primary electrical load I've heard from my readership concerns weight.
4. Capacity. Obviously, at that topographic point volition live people that wish a larger capacity pot. I know MSR is working on it.
5. Auto ignition. A lot of people are quite surprised to detect that the Windburner does non induce got an ignition of some kind. It is prissy amongst a locking pot to induce got an integrated ignition. I realize that at that topographic point may live constraints (like reliability), but piezoelectric ignitions induce got improved tremendously. The Soto Microregulator as well as Soto Windmaster induce got specially expert ignition systems. The pattern of the Windburner's burner surface may brand this quite challenging, but nevertheless I intend it ought to live considered.
6. Height. Particularly as novel pots are developed, I would intend the summit ought to live reduced as well as the width increased. I tested the electrical flow 1.0 L pot, as well as the stability is expert amongst the canister stand, but a lot of people may non read that far inward my review(s) as well as may write the Windburner off as unstable based on appearances alone. A wider pot is easier to attain into as well as would should live stable as well.
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| A Jetboil MiniMo (left) as well as an MSR Windburner (right), both 1.0 L inward capacity. The Windburner is a wonderful unit of measurement but powerfulness exercise goodness from shorter, wider pots inward the future. Note also how the non-MSR canister stand upwardly on the left stands out amend amongst its brilliant color. |
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| Field Testing on Mount San Antonio. Jetboil Sol, left. MSR Windburner, right. |
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